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by **epikal** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 3:49 pm

is anyone here a MCSE?

by **kostyanj** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 3:50 pm

hopefully soon, I'm studying right now and by august, i'll hopefully take and pass the test

by **epikal** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 5:02 pm

im in chapter 3.. but i havnt read in a while ...

do you know if there are age requirements?

by **kostyanj** » Sun Apr 06, 2003 10:34 pm

As far as I know, there are no requirements just as long as you know you're sh*t, you can take the test.

by **epikal** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 3:27 pm

is it considerd a big honor to pass? .. or is it farly easy?

by **kostyanj** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 5:38 pm

It's all a matter of opinion, IMO, some of the certs are still good, MSCE is one of them, but the MCP is much better. There are very few certs out there that still hold their value on paper.

by **Firest0rm** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 6:56 pm

I've heard that MCP is really hard to pass.

by **wacky-sung** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 7:01 pm

What does MCP refer to in FULL?

MCSE = Microsoft Ceritified Software Engineer

by **Firest0rm** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 7:14 pm

MCP = Microsoft Certified Professional

The Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) credential is for professionals who have the skills to successfully implement a Microsoft product or technology as part of a business solution in an organization.

http://www.microsoft.com/traincert/mcp/mcp/

by **kostyanj** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 10:34 pm

Even better, the MCT (Microsoft Certified Trainer) is nearly impossible, that is considered a big honor.

by **wacky-sung** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 6:12 am

I jus do not understand why people still go for MCSE or MCP since microsoft OS is so vulnerable to hack attempts.I think this must be high in demand for the market value.I thinking of taking all these courses but the problem is that i am not from any IT field.How about any of you taking Redhat Network Tech courses?

by **kostyanj** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 8:06 am

How are MS OS's more vulnerable than Linux OS's? Samba recently had a huge exploit. Well administrated and patched up OS's are good. If you leave your OS as a default install, then you can expect problems.

by **internetsavant** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:50 pm

wacky-sung wrote:I jus do not understand why people still go for MCSE or MCP since microsoft OS is so vulnerable to hack attempts.I think this must be high in demand for the market value.I thinking of taking all these courses but the problem is that i am not from any IT field.How about any of you taking Redhat Network Tech courses?

agree with kostyanj.... all OS's have exploits. it's not a matter of microsoft writing bad code, it's a matter of Windows being the prominent OS on end user computers for most of personal computer history. if we were to use osX, linux, solaris, whatever as the primary, they'd be just as riddled with holes - sendmail is probably one of the worst exploited programs in history and it runs on the unix platform...

<a href="http://www.sans.org/top20/">http://www.sans.org/top20/</a> - for a better idea

by **Presario** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:19 pm

No microsoft is not a bad OS its just there are idiots out there who find it fun to find holes in it and spread virus crap to the rest of us.

im just about to start a MCP course it costs a fair bit to get all the course work im looking forward to it.

by **kostyanj** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 7:32 pm

It goes beyond idiots finding it fun. Especially lately, MS is just steamrolling everyone, releasing new OS's every 6 months, SP's every 2 months. And if you don't upgrade, ur screwed. For instance, at the end of this year, NT won't be supported anymore by MS, but yet 35% of businesses still use it. That number is steadily dropping but it's still pretty high. How can a company say that they don't support a product that they wrote?

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